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Earlier this year our land trust, the 818-239-2215 Land Trust bought a
parcel of Land in Pasco County Florida. It is in the town of Holiday.
The Parcel is 580' by 21'.
Here is a link to an aerial view of the property for clarity;
http://maps.pascogov.com/maps/redir.asp?dest=map&parcel=1526250010026000000
The 8 or so people who live on Bigelow Drive have been using this
parcel as part of their yards for some time.
Since we have bought it we have asked these people who live near our
property to remove their sheds, pool equipment, and other belongings.
We have sent numerous certified letters requesting this. We have made
phone calls to make this request.
We have contracted with people to remove the shed near 2643 Bigelow
Drive, Holiday, FL 34691. At least 10 people, maybe as many as 20 have
been there to remove this shed. The police always end up on the scene
and the shed never gets moved.
I am not sure exactly what the police are telling these people who
come to move the shed, but the shed never gets moved.
The property is not zoned for a shed. The shed is in violation of the
Pasco County Code or Ordinances.
4/20/08 (or there about) This Property is zoned 00AC according to the
Property Appraisers Wed site. I talked to Denise in zoning. She
confirmed that official zoning on this property is RMH. She said it
was definitley not zoned for a shed and likely not for fences either.
Transfered me to Code Enforcement # 727-847-8171, Spoke to Jackie,
then Ray who took my complaint and gave complaint # P200814240
5/22/09 We called Pasco Code Enforcement to check the status of
complaint # P200814240. We were told that Charles Kondek is the
investigating officer. He is out on medical leave until Tuesday. I
left a mesage for Supervisor Phillips to call me. His number is
727-536-2714.
Upon speaking to Supervisor Phillips he said to call the County
Attorneys office and speak to Attorney Christie Wooden 800-368-2411
Ext 8120. This County Attorney explained to us that Code Enforcement
had decided to not take any code enforcement action on this parcel
because of the 'dispute'.
Our perspective on this is that we on the property and we do not want
the shed there. Additionally, what does any 'dispute' have to do with
the undisputed fact that this parcel of property is not zoned for a
shed?
Although I had intended to write much more before submitting this
post, I will leave it at this for now.
Any perspective, advice, questions, feedback, or other replies are
greatly appreciated even if such does not support our position.
Please excuse any spelling or other errors as I was in a hurry.
There have been several local news stories on this situation. Lots
more info including Statutes, Case Law, and news articles can be found
at www.818LandTrust.org |
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:25 pm |
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In article <m07b9419rnvl81fframeglf1kr9cnirjn8@4ax.com>,
LandTrust818@yahoo.com wrote:
Quote: Earlier this year our land trust, the 818-239-2215 Land Trust bought a
parcel of Land in Pasco County Florida. It is in the town of Holiday.
The Parcel is 580' by 21'.
Here is a link to an aerial view of the property for clarity;
http://maps.pascogov.com/maps/redir.asp?dest=map&parcel=1526250010026000000
The 8 or so people who live on Bigelow Drive have been using this
parcel as part of their yards for some time.
I can see why. The people that live there may never have known
that they didn't own their back yard, and assume that it is their
land to use.
Quote: We have contracted with people to remove the shed near 2643 Bigelow
Drive, Holiday, FL 34691. At least 10 people, maybe as many as 20 have
been there to remove this shed. The police always end up on the scene
and the shed never gets moved.
I am not sure exactly what the police are telling these people who
come to move the shed, but the shed never gets moved.
This is the key item. Have you been there when this has happened?
You see, the police generally are not going to know anything about
lot lines and property ownership. They are just concerned about
defusing the situation. They are probably telling the contractors
to go home until they can get some kind of legal papers.
What I think you need to do is act on your own and assert your
rights of ownership. I'd suggest the following process:
1) tag each item you want moved with a letter stating that the
item is on your property, and the date by which it must be moved.
2) on that date, start moving stuff. Hire a bobcat from a rental
place and move the shed to a different part of the property.
3) put up stakes on the lot line, and string orange contractors
tape around the edge (the tape that is like yellow police line
tape).
4) put up a few no trespassing signs on the lot line.
If the police are called out, have your paperwork ready. Find
out what they are telling people. Make sure that you show that
you own the land, and that there is no "dispute".
BTW, I am curious why you bought this piece of land. It has no
real value other than to the homeowners. One would think that
your only possible profit out of this deal would be to sell the
backyard chunks to each homeowner. But they have no incentive
to pay money since they have gotten it for free. That means you
have to do something ugly to give them an incentive to buy, such
as starting a smelly composting pile or parking semi-trucks on
the land.
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:25 pm |
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In misc.legal.moderated LandTrust818@yahoo.com wrote:
| Earlier this year our land trust, the 818-239-2215 Land Trust bought a
| parcel of Land in Pasco County Florida. It is in the town of Holiday.
| The Parcel is 580' by 21'.
Of what use is a narrow strip of land like that? Are you an owner or
resident on the opposite side (Tiki Dr) of the strip? What is your interest
in having acquired this?
Is the white rectangle directly behind the 2nd house from Bentley Lane on
the south side of Tiki the shed of interest? This is being used by Mr.
Dennewitz, correct? This URL is centered on the object I refer to:
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=28.19778,-82.759404&spn=0.00178,0.002103&t=h&z=19
I'm wondering if eviction process is appropriate here. I'll wait for the
lawyers and other experts to followup to see what they say. But my guess
is you'll need a court order to get the police to step aside when someone
is disputing (ownership or leased rights).
There was a previous owner of this land that defaulted in taxes?
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:25 pm |
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LandTrust818@yahoo.com writes:
Quote: We have contracted with people to remove the shed near 2643 Bigelow
Drive, Holiday, FL 34691. At least 10 people, maybe as many as 20 have
been there to remove this shed. The police always end up on the scene
and the shed never gets moved.
I'm not sure what you plan to do with a 21' wide plot, but....
You need a real estate attorney, one who knows the local rules, and
people there.
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| David L. Martel |
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:25 pm |
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Land,
You've purchased a long narrow parcel of land which apears to be the
backyard of a number of homes. You purchased this land from the County
government though you do not say how control of this land passed to the
County. The residents of the homes that abut your property are using this
land as "backyards" by havig sheds and other stuff on your property. You
have attempted to remove this stuff from the land but have been stopped by
the police since this is not your stuff. Neither the police orthe local DA
are willing to help you take control of this property. You ask for advice.
Buying this parcel of land may have been a mistake. You really can't due
much to develop this land and it only has value to the neighbors. You will
be paying paxes on it and they will continue to use it. You claim that you
can't fence it off and the police absolutely do not want to get involved. I
don't get it, why'd you buy this nuisance?
Anyway, you can hire a lawyer and try to get an injunction allowing you
to clear your land. I'd expect the neighbors to just more put stuff out
there, though. Go speak with a lawyer who specializes in real estate.
Hopefully your neighbors do not have an adverse possession claim or any
other claim. I find it odd that the developer did not do something with this
land and worry that you do not have clear title.
Good luck,
Dave M. |
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:23 pm |
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David Lesher wrote:
Quote: I'm not sure what you plan to do with a 21' wide plot, but....
Spaghetti factory.
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:23 pm |
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On Aug 4, 6:23=A0am, David Lesher <wb8...@panix.com> wrote:
Quote: LandTrust...@yahoo.com writes:
We have contracted with people to remove the shed near 2643 Bigelow
Drive, Holiday, FL 34691. At least 10 people, maybe as many as 20 have
been there to remove this shed. The police always end up on the scene
and the shed never gets moved.
I'm not sure what you plan to do with a 21' wide plot, but....
You need a real estate attorney, one who knows the local rules, and
people there.
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& no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX
Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433
I am thinking that eventually these people will want to sell their
houses and the fact that they do not own the whole backyard will be a
disclosure item. Our Land Trust and the Board of Directors is based in
California. Our Trustee is a lawyer is in Pinellas County Florida and
has quoted us a fair price to get involved in this. We may opt to go
that route in the near future. If one of these homeowners puts their
house on the market that may be the point at which we get the lawyer
involved. We may send another wave of people out there to clear the
land, take the shed. This time the people will have a certified letter
from our Trustee authorizing them to do what they came to do. We will
also have a 'questionaire' for any police that show up with direct
questions like 'What law or statute would this contractor be voilating
if they take the shed? and 'Will you make any arrest if the shed is
taken?'
The police know and are very clear on the fact that the shed is on
our property.
We also want to have MULTIPLE video cameras recording the whole
incident including the actions of the cops and the people removing the
shed. We hope to sue the cops for LOTS of cash if they just want to be
Pasco Cowboys and enforce their whims rather than the laws. |
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:23 pm |
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On Aug 3, 7:53=A0am, LandTrust...@yahoo.com wrote:
Quote: Earlier this year our land trust, the 818-239-2215 Land Trust bought a
parcel of Land in Pasco County Florida. It is in the town of Holiday.
The Parcel is 580' by 21'.
[snip]
There have been several local news stories on this situation. Lots
more info including Statutes, Case Law, and news articles can be found
atwww.818LandTrust.org
Googling the name of the trust turns up a number of news stories, such
as:
http://www.baynews9.com/content/36/2008/5/6/346051.html
It sounds like you simply priced the land too high, since one of the
abutters actually offered you $500 for the portion behind his house.
(There are 11 houses which abut your sliver.) I reccomend marking it
down to the market-clearing price--- which seems to be about $5000---
take the cash, and get out of the neighborhood. |
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:23 pm |
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On Aug 4, 5:23=A0am, David Lesher <wb8...@panix.com> wrote:
Quote: LandTrust...@yahoo.com writes:
We have contracted with people to remove the shed near 2643 Bigelow
Drive, Holiday, FL 34691. At least 10 people, maybe as many as 20 have
been there to remove this shed. The police always end up on the scene
and the shed never gets moved.
I'm not sure what you plan to do with a 21' wide plot, but....
Numerous local newspaper reports allege that the land trust has bought
mutliple properties like this one. The trust attempts to sell the
properties back to the disseisors at an inflated price.
According to the articles, the county commissioners, attorney's
office, tax collector, et al. feel the land trust is abusive and has
even accused the trust of extortion. Supposedly, if the Bigelow Drive
residents don't buy the property back, the trust has threatened to
setup a homeless encampment or similar annoyance. Perhaps our OP is
getting no help from "the authorities" because they vehemently oppose
the trust's actions. |
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:23 pm |
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In misc.legal.moderated John A. Weeks III <john@johnweeks.com> wrote:
| BTW, I am curious why you bought this piece of land. It has no
| real value other than to the homeowners. One would think that
| your only possible profit out of this deal would be to sell the
| backyard chunks to each homeowner. But they have no incentive
| to pay money since they have gotten it for free. That means you
| have to do something ugly to give them an incentive to buy, such
| as starting a smelly composting pile or parking semi-trucks on
| the land.
I'm going to guess there are zoning restrictions that would apply
to things like that. Maybe a fence would be better/allowed.
Given that this is a development, it sure seems odd that a piece of
property got sectioned off like that. But I presume if there is an
HOA, even this property would be under its covenants and restrictions.
OTOH, maybe it was the developer or HOA itself that defaulted on taxes
and let this property go up for auction.
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| Dick Adams |
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:23 pm |
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<LandTrust818@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: Earlier this year our land trust, the 818-239-2215 Land Trust bought a
parcel of Land in Pasco County Florida. It is in the town of Holiday.
The Parcel is 580' by 21'.
Here is a link to an aerial view of the property for clarity;
http://maps.pascogov.com/maps/redir.asp?dest=map&parcel=1526250010026000000
The 8 or so people who live on Bigelow Drive have been using this
parcel as part of their yards for some time.
It took me a few minutes to understand why this is a problem.
Your land trust purchased the 21' x 580' strip of land between
the houses on Bigelow Drive and the houses on Tiki Drive. Any
rational person without the aid of boundary markers (which are
not present) would not be unreasonable in infering that this is
either their land or an easement.
Quote: Since we have bought it we have asked these people who live near our
property to remove their sheds, pool equipment, and other belongings.
We have sent numerous certified letters requesting this. We have made
phone calls to make this request.
We have contracted with people to remove the shed near 2643 Bigelow
Drive, Holiday, FL 34691. At least 10 people, maybe as many as 20 have
been there to remove this shed. The police always end up on the scene
and the shed never gets moved.
They obviously do not believe you or they believe you, but believe
they have squatters' rights.
Quote: I am not sure exactly what the police are telling these people who
come to move the shed, but the shed never gets moved.
They are telling them to go away.
Quote: The property is not zoned for a shed. The shed is in violation
of the Pasco County Code or Ordinances.
Zoning Department experience deleted)
And you expected a Zoning Department to actually do something?
Quote: There have been several local news stories on this situation.
Lots more info including Statutes, Case Law, and news articles
can be found at www.818LandTrust.org
Those articles depict you as a wealthy, transient mercenary who
is extorting from the poor. This is in spite of the fact that
you aren't even an elected public official <sarcasm>.
What I really love is that the County sold you the land at a
tax deed sale and now objects to you trying to make a profit
from it. Perhaps they are embarrassed that they did not think
of selling the land piecemeal to the homeowners at the prices
you are asking. Afterall it's 'strategy du jour' for elected
and appointed public officials to commit extortion against
homeowners. Do not be surprised when the County attempts to
take the land from you by emminent domain.
Is there enough money involved to justify a PR campaign
against the County for selling off these parcels in the
first place. "Why did they sell it if they didn't expect
it to be used?"
Dick - I never was an attorney |
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:14 pm |
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On Aug 5, 7:23 am, David Chesler <ches...@post.harvard.edu> wrote:
Quote: David Lesher wrote:
I'm not sure what you plan to do with a 21' wide plot, but....
Spaghetti factory.
LOL
Snake farm. It's Florida, remember?
Mike Jacobs
(no legal content, but I couldn't help it) |
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:14 pm |
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On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 07:23:31 -0400, kastnna <kastnna@auburnalum.org>
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Quote: On Aug 4, 5:23=A0am, David Lesher <wb8...@panix.com> wrote:
LandTrust...@yahoo.com writes:
We have contracted with people to remove the shed near 2643 Bigelow
Drive, Holiday, FL 34691. At least 10 people, maybe as many as 20 have
been there to remove this shed. The police always end up on the scene
and the shed never gets moved.
I'm not sure what you plan to do with a 21' wide plot, but....
Numerous local newspaper reports allege that the land trust has bought
mutliple properties like this one. The trust attempts to sell the
properties back to the disseisors at an inflated price.
According to the articles, the county commissioners, attorney's
office, tax collector, et al. feel the land trust is abusive and has
even accused the trust of extortion. Supposedly, if the Bigelow Drive
residents don't buy the property back, the trust has threatened to
setup a homeless encampment or similar annoyance. Perhaps our OP is
getting no help from "the authorities" because they vehemently oppose
the trust's actions.
It sounds to me like the local commission committed grave errors of
judgment in this matter. I'd be quite surprised, for instance, if the
local authorities haven't been charging Dennewitz the assessed value
of his property including the shed which the "trust" claims to have
purchased the land under. I don't see why the police would intervene
when Dennewitz is clearly in possession of the land and seems to have
a good adverse possession claim against whatever previously owned the
property.
Since these common areas of the neighborhood are not supposed to be
taxed in any case (their value is already taken into account in the
assessed values of the adjoining properties), the county had no right
to seize them or sell them.
An analagous example in a much different jurisdiction would be New
York City's attempt to tax the private, gated Gramercy Park:
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9E0CEFDA1439E733A25755C0A9649C946897D6CF&oref=slogin
http://tinyurl.com/6mxmnh (if longer link is broken).
Depending on how the property was broken up, easements for access
roads and uses contemporaneous with the division could exist.[*]
In a less gentle age, anyone from the "trust" with the nerve to show
his face to attempt to assert similar rights would have had it removed
with a nice sized load of buckshot.
The preceding is in my opinion, which is somewhat clouded by my utter
abhorrence of the conduct of the "land trust," which causes me to
yearn for a less gentle age.
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In a similar case in York County, Pennsylvania, when I lived there,
neighbors were forced to pursue an adverse possession claim against
the centuries-dead William Penn concerning the ownership of a similar
thin strip of land abutting their properties, as it had never been
included in subsequent subdivisions, and Penn owned the land via a
grant from King Charles II in 1681. Penn not having any fixed address
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:14 pm |
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LandTrust818@yahoo.com wrote:
Quote: I am thinking that eventually these people will want to sell their
houses and the fact that they do not own the whole backyard will be a
disclosure item.
Among other possibilities, unless, of course, they have well founded
reason to claim then do effectively claim that they own the land in
question notwithstanding your status as holder of deed obtained from a
tax foreclosure sale auction because they acquired ownership or in
future years depending how long you wait to take action later will
have acquired it by way of adverse possession and related principles
of prescription. |
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:14 pm |
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On Aug 5, 7:23=A0am, kastnna <kast...@auburnalum.org> wrote:
Quote: On Aug 4, 5:23=3DA0am, David Lesher <wb8...@panix.com> wrote:
LandTrust...@yahoo.com writes:
We have contracted with people to remove the shed near 2643 Bigelow
Drive, Holiday, FL 34691. At least 10 people, maybe as many as 20 have
been there to remove this shed. The police always end up on the scene
and the shed never gets moved.
I'm not sure what you plan to do with a 21' wide plot, but....
Numerous local newspaper reports allege that the land trust has bought
mutliple properties like this one. The trust attempts to sell the
properties back to the disseisors at an inflated price.
According to the articles, the county commissioners, attorney's
office, tax collector, et al. feel the land trust is abusive and has
even accused the trust of extortion. Supposedly, if the Bigelow Drive
residents don't buy the property back, the trust has threatened to
setup a homeless encampment or similar annoyance. Perhaps our OP is
getting no help from "the authorities" because they vehemently oppose
the trust's actions.
Yes, the trust has bought 4 parcels like this to date. One was a road
that we sold to the residents who live on the road for a $2700 profit.
Yes, we have been called abusive extortionists. We just saw a good
investment, bought it (them). Now we own the property and do not want
people to use it for free. We offered to lease the land to the people
who live along Bigelow for $5 per month each. In out book, that is not
extortion.
Yes, we suspect that the County Authorities oppose us owning the land
and wanting to use it, but, remember, the County is who sold us this
parcel. |
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:14 pm |
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On Aug 5, 7:23=A0am, Timothy <Timothy.Horri...@alumni.usc.edu> wrote:
Quote: On Aug 3, 7:53=3DA0am, LandTrust...@yahoo.com wrote:
Earlier this year our land trust, the 818-239-2215 Land Trust bought a
parcel of Land in Pasco County Florida. It is in the town of Holiday.
The Parcel is 580' by 21'.
[snip]
There have been several local news stories on this situation. Lots
more info including Statutes, Case Law, and news articles can be found
atwww.818LandTrust.org
Googling the name of the trust turns up a number of news stories, such
as:
http://www.baynews9.com/content/36/2008/5/6/346051.html
It sounds like you simply priced the land too high, since one of the
abutters actually offered you $500 for the portion behind his house.
(There are 11 houses which abut your sliver.) =A0I reccomend marking it
down to the market-clearing price--- which seems to be about $5000---
take the cash, and get out of the neighborhood.
The offer was $500 for the whole parcel. Right or wrong in anyones
opinion, its our land and, as printed in the St. Pete Times, for now
we want 1.5 million for it. |
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:14 pm |
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On Aug 5, 7:23=A0am, Timothy <Timothy.Horri...@alumni.usc.edu> wrote:
Quote:
It sounds like you simply priced the land too high, since one of the
abutters actually offered you $500 for the portion behind his house.
(There are 11 houses which abut your sliver.) =A0
I am not sure what the OP is up to but the 818LandTrust,com web site
indicates that he is up to something more than just flipping a small
parcel of land for a small profit. It even looks this is more than
just plain old low-level extortion. In this case on Tiki Drive he
seems to be going to extraordinary (and not exactly zero-cost) lengths
to annoy the abutters.
In any case, it sounds like we know roughly what the land is worth to
the neighbors (i.e, 11 times $500 or perhaps a little more.) If it's
just about the money, my (off-the -cuff) advice is sell it for the
market price and move on to another tax auction. If there's a matter
of principle involved, I would advise getting a good lawyer. |
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| Dick Adams |
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:13 pm |
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Quote: Given that this is a development, it sure seems odd that a piece of
property got sectioned off like that. But I presume if there is an
HOA, even this property would be under its covenants and restrictions.
My suspicion is that this is the sewer/water/electricity/cable/phone
easement that the county required of the developer. For some reason,
the developer failed to aportion the land into the lots. Since the
developer had no need for the land, it had no reason to pay the taxes.
Just a lioness has a daily need for food, governmental units have a
daily need for revenue. Thus, the county, in this case, sold the
land for back taxes without concern/awareness of the logical
consequences.
Quote: OTOH, maybe it was the developer or HOA itself that defaulted on
taxes and let this property go up for auction.
Why would anyone pay taxes on property for which has no economic
benefit to them?
IMRHO the County is the culprit here - in part for indiscriminately
selling the land, but much more so for exacerbating the situation
by disingenuously slandering the buyer and refusing to support the
property rights of the buyer. Shame on them.
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<LandTrust818@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: I am thinking that eventually these people will
want to sell their houses and the fact that they
do not own the whole backyard will be a disclosure
item. Our Land Trust and the Board of Directors
is based in California.
Do you really want to wait that long while paying
property taxes and putting up with a disingenuous
County government?
Quote: We may send another wave of people out there to
clear the land, take the shed. This time the
people will have a certified letter from our
Trustee authorizing them to do what they came to
do. We will also have a 'questionaire' for any
police that show up with direct questions like
'What law or statute would this contractor be
violating if they take the shed? and 'Will you
make any arrest if the shed is taken?'
Do you really expect a police officer to respond
to a questionnaire?
Quote: We also want to have MULTIPLE video cameras
recording the whole incident including the
actions of the cops and the people removing the
shed. We hope to sue the cops for LOTS of cash
if they just want to be Pasco Cowboys and enforce
their whims rather than the laws.
I would hope your attorneys advise you against such
action as it will only serve to publicly exacerbate
the situation. A more efficient strategy would be
to bill the shed owner for your actual costs of
attempted removal of shed and when it is not paid,
to turn the unpaid bill plus collection charges over
to the collection agency of Ketchum Squeezem & Bleedem.
If this matter does go to court, you should have the
upper hand. Although IMRHO the County has been dealing
from the bottom of the deck, I find it difficult to
believe that the State courts will side them. Given
the meretricious behavior of the County, I would
suggest you go after them for punitive damages.
Dick - I never was an attorney |
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| Dick Adams |
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:13 pm |
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Cy Pres <c.pres@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: ... I don't see why the police would intervene when Dennewitz
is clearly in possession of the land and seems to have a good
adverse possession claim against whatever previously owned the
property.
Adverse possession requires continuous and open usage for x
number of years. In Florida, it is seven years so his adverse
possession claim may not be good.
Quote: Since these common areas of the neighborhood are not supposed to be
taxed in any case (their value is already taken into account in the
assessed values of the adjoining properties), the county had no right
to seize them or sell them.
You and I are in absolute agreement. The County was wrong to
sell the strip in the first place.
Dick - I never was an attorney |
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