On Oct 16, 6:07 pm,zzbunker<zzbun...@netscape.net> wrote:





On Oct 14, 10:53 am, Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Oct 12, 6:05 pm, "zzbun...@netscape.net" <zzbun...@netscape.net
wrote:

On Oct 12, 4:08 pm, Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Oct 11, 6:13 pm, "zzbun...@netscape.net" <zzbun...@netscape.net
wrote:

On Oct 11, 12:10 pm, Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Oct 10, 7:25 pm, "zzbun...@netscape.net" <zzbun...@netscape.net
wrote:

On Oct 10, 11:18 am, Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Oct 9, 4:38 pm, "zzbun...@netscape.net" <zzbun...@netscape.net
wrote:

On Oct 9, 5:24 pm, Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Oct 9, 1:11 pm, "zzbun...@netscape.net" <zzbun....@netscape.net
wrote:

On Oct 9, 10:24 am, Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Oct 8, 4:37 pm, "zzbun...@netscape.net" <zzbun...@netscape.net
wrote:

On Oct 8, 1:06 pm, Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote:

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   invented the post-GE fiber optics, post-GM Holograms, post-AT&T
booking,
   post-Ford Batteries, Phishing filters, Optical Computers, risc++,
parallel processors,
   Elibraies(),  HDTV[], Blogs, On-Line-Publishing,  On-Line-Banking,
CD+rw, DVD-stack,
   Linux, All-In-One Printers, AUVs, AAVs, Cruise Missiles, laser-
guided lasers,
   GPS, AAVs, AUVs, XML, and USB

So, why haven't these engineering geniuses invented something really
useful, like controlled nuclear fusion -- unlimited free energy?

  Since controlled nuclear fusion is just like cold fusion.
  It belongs in the idiot department of *CHEMISTRY* not *ENGINEERING*.
  Since the engineers make A.I. Adaptive PV Cell Arrays, Adaptive
piezo,
  laser-guided lasers, post GM Holograms, post Ford batteries, post
neandtheral robotics,
  Cruise Missiles, AAVs, AUVs,  risc++,  Post AT&T fiber optics,
  Elibraries, Blogs, On-Line-Publlishing, On-Line-Banking, GPS, neo
wind energy,
  HDTV, CD+rw, DVD-stack, XML, Optical Computers, and USB,
  rather than idiot G.E. philosopers.

Maybe, because there's no money in  it?

Or, maybe, because it's too big and too dangerous to do in your
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Splendid, lets get rid of these moronic engineers and invest in
Chemistry and Physics.

   Well, you're seeing the only thing real *ENGINEERS* invest in
retarded *PHYSICS*.,
   which is post-AT&T fiber optics, post-ford batteries, post GM
Holograms,
   XML, On-Line-Banking, On-Line Publishing, laser-guided lasers, CD
+rw, DVD-stack,
   HDTV, Optical Computers,  Adaptive PV Cells, Adaptive Piezo, All-In-
One Printers,
   USB, and  Cruise Missiles.
   Since they don't call Physicists imbecile IBM mathematicians, for
no reason.

  Good point.  We've had quite enough of stupid,

greedy engineers building devices to steal money and kill people.
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We need controlled nuclear fusion.  Unlimited, clean energy.  The
power to colonize the solar system and exploit the resources of outer
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  Well, that may or not be true, but you're still missing the point
that the
  A.I. parallel processors, multitaskers, fiber optics, CD, DVD, HDTV,
Elibraries, holograms,
  neo wind energy, neo solar energy, microwave ovens, biodiesel, GPS,
and
  modern robotics were all invented since the people in engineering
are still
  not going to wait a day for the blood-sucking tax-cranks running the
  power grid to come with a solution to anything.

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You're missing the point.  Most "new" engineering technologies are
bells and whistles variants designed to make money and not to help
society.

   That is  *THE POINT*.  Since we''re  here to do *ENGIINEERING*,
make MONEY,
   make *ELIBRAIRES*, make *post-GM-HOLOGRAMS*, LASER-GUIDED LASERS,
   make post-stooge Chicago Robotics  adpative PV Cell Arrays, RISC+
+,
   CD+RW, DVD-stack,  HDTV[], USB, XML,  post AT&T fiiber optics,
   *OPTICAL* COMPUTERS,  and NOT to work for  * IBM NANO-IMBECILES*.

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In other words, engineers are of no social utility whatsoever, because
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   Well, the best one mostly are interested in making HOLOGRAMS,
   ROBOTS, RISC++, Elibraries, HDTV[], CD-rw,DVD-stack, post Ford
batteries,
   post AT&T fiber optics, adaptive PV Cells, laser-guided lasers,
masers,
   cruise missiles, XML, and USB and telling morons like economists to
get a job
   with some  Microsoft lamo.

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So, why aren't the best engineers interested in developing unlimited,
clean energy, and the power to exploit outer space through controlled
nuclear fusion?

  Because the best *engineers* have been workng on intelligent robots,
neo Wind Energy,
  neo Solar Enegy, bio-diesel, RISC++,  PV Cell Arrays, Adaptive
Piezo,  fiber optics,
  Laser-Guided Lasers Optical Computers, Elibraries,  HDTV, CD, DVD,
  Post McDonald's Holograms, post Ford Batteries, Satellites, Drones,
AUVs,  AVVs,
  Blogs, On-Line-Banking,  On-line-Publishing, and Cruise Missiles for
the last 50 years.
  Since like the idiots in Science have been  told since the year
crank Quantum Mechanics
  was invented, :Unlimited  ANYTHIING is just a MYTH.

  Is there something seriously wrong with their heads?

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Yes, as I've indicated, our best engineers are totally useless.
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Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote
Han de Bruijn <Han.deBru...@DTO.TUDelft.NL> wrote
Jerry Kraus wrote

So, why aren't the best engineers interested in developing
unlimited, clean energy, and the power to exploit outer space
through controlled nuclear fusion? Is there something seriously
wrong with their heads? Or, are they exclusively interested in
making money, and know that controlled nuclear fusion would be
impossible to patent?

Controlled nuclear fusion may be possible only with mondial investment

Perhaps. Although I doubt it need be quite that expensive. I think
the ITER fusion project in France is an overblown exercise in
bureaucratic job creation. I do think it will require some
government involvement, though. Too expensive and dangerous for the
backyard inventors. Not enough of a gaurantee of a financial return
for the big companies, because the work could be easily modified
and copied, once completed. And without outside pressure, the
University scientists simply do nothing whatsoever.

Odd about fusion with that last.

At great length, too.

Kicked you out did they ?

It's a highly politicized environment, Rod.

Independance is not tolerated.

Which is why they never get anything done.

Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote





Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote
Han de Bruijn <Han.deBru...@DTO.TUDelft.NL> wrote
Jerry Kraus wrote
So, why aren't the best engineers interested in developing
unlimited, clean energy, and the power to exploit outer space
through controlled nuclear fusion? Is there something seriously
wrong with their heads? Or, are they exclusively interested in
making money, and know that controlled nuclear fusion would be
impossible to patent?
Controlled nuclear fusion may be possible only with mondial investment
Perhaps. Although I doubt it need be quite that expensive. I think
the ITER fusion project in France is an overblown exercise in
bureaucratic job creation. I do think it will require some
government involvement, though. Too expensive and dangerous for the
backyard inventors. Not enough of a gaurantee of a financial return
for the big companies, because the work could be easily modified
and copied, once completed. And without outside pressure, the
University scientists simply do nothing whatsoever.
Odd about fusion with that last.
At great length, too.
Kicked you out did they ?

Spot on in fact.

It's a highly politicized environment, Rod.

No news to me boy.

Independance is not tolerated.

Plenty manage to remain independant.

YOU got kicked out.

Which is why they never get anything done.

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Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote
Han de Bruijn <Han.deBru...@DTO.TUDelft.NL> wrote
Jerry Kraus wrote

So, why aren't the best engineers interested in developing
unlimited, clean energy, and the power to exploit outer space
through controlled nuclear fusion? Is there something seriously
wrong with their heads? Or, are they exclusively interested in
making money, and know that controlled nuclear fusion would be
impossible to patent?

Controlled nuclear fusion may be possible only with mondial investment

Perhaps. Although I doubt it need be quite that expensive. I think
the ITER fusion project in France is an overblown exercise in
bureaucratic job creation. I do think it will require some
government involvement, though. Too expensive and dangerous for
the backyard inventors. Not enough of a gaurantee of a financial
return for the big companies, because the work could be easily
modified and copied, once completed. And without outside
pressure, the University scientists simply do nothing whatsoever.

Odd about fusion with that last.

At great length, too.

Kicked you out did they ?

Spot on in fact.

It's a highly politicized environment, Rod.

No news to me boy.

Independance is not tolerated.

Plenty manage to remain independant.

YOU got kicked out.

Which is why they never get anything done.

Odd about Rutherford, Fleming, HIV/AIDS, fusion, DNA, etc etc etc.

Uh...Rod...Rod...Rutherford???...Fleming???...do you know
what century you are living in Rod? Are you quite sure, Rod?

Why not refer to Newton and Galileo as illustrations of the
effectiveness of University science, while you're at it?

Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote
Han de Bruijn <Han.deBru...@DTO.TUDelft.NL> wrote
Jerry Kraus wrote

So, why aren't the best engineers interested in developing
unlimited, clean energy, and the power to exploit outer space
through controlled nuclear fusion? Is there something seriously
wrong with their heads? Or, are they exclusively interested in
making money, and know that controlled nuclear fusion would be
impossible to patent?

Controlled nuclear fusion may be possible only with mondial investment

Perhaps. Although I doubt it need be quite that expensive. I think
the ITER fusion project in France is an overblown exercise in
bureaucratic job creation. I do think it will require some
government involvement, though. Too expensive and dangerous for
the backyard inventors. Not enough of a gaurantee of a financial
return for the big companies, because the work could be easily
modified and copied, once completed. And without outside
pressure, the University scientists simply do nothing whatsoever.

Odd about fusion with that last.

At great length, too.

Kicked you out did they ?

Spot on in fact.

It's a highly politicized environment, Rod.

No news to me boy.

Independance is not tolerated.

Plenty manage to remain independant.

YOU got kicked out.

Which is why they never get anything done.

Odd about Rutherford, Fleming, HIV/AIDS, fusion, DNA, etc etc etc.

But the Rutherfordians didn't know that photons work much better when
they're not an hypothesis, pumps work much better when they're digital,
that laser-guided lasers accelerate electrons much faster than accelerators
do, and that prisms scatter light better when they'e artifical, rather than
when they're diamonds. And that magnets have 4 poles when they're
not orbiting trees.

zzbun...@netscape.net wrote

Irrelevant to his pathetically bitter and twisted mindless ravings about university scientists.-

Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
zzbun...@netscape.net wrote
Irrelevant to his pathetically bitter and twisted mindless ravings about university scientists.-
I'm not traumatizing you, am I Rod?
Nope, pathetically bitter and twisted loons like you are completely irrelevant to me, child.
Even if you were in the same country as me, the rotty and
the shotty would keep you at bay very effectively indeed.
I'm a bit of an amateur linguist, Rod.  Rottweiler and Shotgun.

You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist pathetically bitter and twisted mindless raving loons ?

So, I gather you find me somewhat threatening for some reason.

Nope. I just recognise that we dont keep many of you pathetically bitter and twisted mindless raving
loons in locked wards anymore and that the rotty and the shotty are perfectly adequate ways of
dealing with you when you are completely out of your tree yet again and we're waiting for the
nice fellas in the green van to show up with those funky canvas jackets with very long sleeves etc.

In other words, we can add paranoia to your other great gifts.

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed psychotic fantasys, bum.

Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
zzbun...@netscape.net wrote

Irrelevant to his pathetically bitter and twisted
mindless ravings about university scientists.-

I'm not traumatizing you, am I Rod?

Nope, pathetically bitter and twisted loons like you are completely
irrelevant to me, child. Even if you were in the same country as me,
the rotty and the shotty would keep you at bay very effectively indeed.

I'm a bit of an amateur linguist, Rod. Rottweiler and Shotgun.

You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist
pathetically bitter and twisted mindless raving loons ?

So, I gather you find me somewhat threatening for some reason.

Nope. I just recognise that we dont keep many of you pathetically
bitter and twisted mindless raving loons in locked wards anymore
and that the rotty and the shotty are perfectly adequate ways of
dealing with you when you are completely out of your tree yet
again and we're waiting for the nice fellas in the green van to show
up with those funky canvas jackets with very long sleeves etc.

In other words, we can add paranoia to your other great gifts.

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed psychotic fantasys, bum.

So, what medications are you on, Rod?

I'm just curious.

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Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote
Han de Bruijn <Han.deBru...@DTO.TUDelft.NL> wrote
Jerry Kraus wrote
So, why aren't the best engineers interested in developing
unlimited, clean energy, and the power to exploit outer space
through controlled nuclear fusion? Is there something seriously
wrong with their heads? Or, are they exclusively interested in
making money, and know that controlled nuclear fusion would be
impossible to patent?
Controlled nuclear fusion may be possible only with mondial investment
Perhaps. Although I doubt it need be quite that expensive. I think
the ITER fusion project in France is an overblown exercise in
bureaucratic job creation. I do think it will require some
government involvement, though. Too expensive and dangerous for
the backyard inventors. Not enough of a gaurantee of a financial
return for the big companies, because the work could be easily
modified and copied, once completed. And without outside
pressure, the University scientists simply do nothing whatsoever.
Odd about fusion with that last.
At great length, too.
Kicked you out did they ?
Spot on in fact.
It's a highly politicized environment, Rod.
No news to me boy.
Independance is not tolerated.
Plenty manage to remain independant.
YOU got kicked out.
Which is why they never get anything done.
Odd about Rutherford, Fleming, HIV/AIDS, fusion, DNA, etc etc etc.
But the Rutherfordians didn't know that photons work much better when
they're not an hypothesis, pumps work much better when they're digital,
that laser-guided lasers accelerate electrons much faster than accelerators
do, and that prisms scatter light better when they'e artifical, rather than
when they're diamonds. And that magnets have 4 poles when they're
not orbiting trees.

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On Oct 17, 4:44 am, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:





zzbun...@netscape.net wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote
Han de Bruijn <Han.deBru...@DTO.TUDelft.NL> wrote
Jerry Kraus wrote
So, why aren't the best engineers interested in developing
unlimited, clean energy, and the power to exploit outer space
through controlled nuclear fusion? Is there something seriously
wrong with their heads? Or, are they exclusively interested in
making money, and know that controlled nuclear fusion would be
impossible to patent?
Controlled nuclear fusion may be possible only with mondial investment
Perhaps. Although I doubt it need be quite that expensive. I think
the ITER fusion project in France is an overblown exercise in
bureaucratic job creation. I do think it will require some
government involvement, though. Too expensive and dangerous for
the backyard inventors. Not enough of a gaurantee of a financial
return for the big companies, because the work could be easily
modified and copied, once completed. And without outside
pressure, the University scientists simply do nothing whatsoever.
Odd about fusion with that last.
At great length, too.
Kicked you out did they ?
Spot on in fact.
It's a highly politicized environment, Rod.
No news to me boy.
Independance is not tolerated.
Plenty manage to remain independant.
YOU got kicked out.
Which is why they never get anything done.
Odd about Rutherford, Fleming, HIV/AIDS, fusion, DNA, etc etc etc.
But the Rutherfordians didn't know that photons work much better when
they're not an hypothesis, pumps work much better when they're digital,
that laser-guided lasers accelerate electrons much faster than accelerators
do, and that prisms scatter light better when they'e artifical, rather than
when they're diamonds. And that magnets have 4 poles when they're
not orbiting trees.

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   I never ranted about University Scientists, since I left the crank
system,
   STRING-WISE  *FOREVER*    quite, quite, long ago.





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On Oct 22, 11:03 am, "zzbun...@netscape.net" <zzbun...@netscape.net
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On Oct 17, 4:44 am, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:

zzbun...@netscape.net wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote
Han de Bruijn <Han.deBru...@DTO.TUDelft.NL> wrote
Jerry Kraus wrote
So, why aren't the best engineers interested in developing
unlimited, clean energy, and the power to exploit outer space
through controlled nuclear fusion? Is there something seriously
wrong with their heads? Or, are they exclusively interested in
making money, and know that controlled nuclear fusion would be
impossible to patent?
Controlled nuclear fusion may be possible only with mondial investment
Perhaps. Although I doubt it need be quite that expensive. I think
the ITER fusion project in France is an overblown exercise in
bureaucratic job creation. I do think it will require some
government involvement, though. Too expensive and dangerous for
the backyard inventors. Not enough of a gaurantee of a financial
return for the big companies, because the work could be easily
modified and copied, once completed. And without outside
pressure, the University scientists simply do nothing whatsoever.
Odd about fusion with that last.
At great length, too.
Kicked you out did they ?
Spot on in fact.
It's a highly politicized environment, Rod.
No news to me boy.
Independance is not tolerated.
Plenty manage to remain independant.
YOU got kicked out.
Which is why they never get anything done.
Odd about Rutherford, Fleming, HIV/AIDS, fusion, DNA, etc etc etc.
But the Rutherfordians didn't know that photons work much better when
they're not an hypothesis, pumps work much better when they're digital,
that laser-guided lasers accelerate electrons much faster than accelerators
do, and that prisms scatter light better when they'e artifical, rather than
when they're diamonds. And that magnets have 4 poles when they're
not orbiting trees.

Irrelevant to his pathetically bitter and twisted mindless ravings about university scientists.- Hide quoted text -

   I never ranted about University Scientists, since I left the crank
system,
   STRING-WISE  *FOREVER*    quite, quite, long ago.

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That's because you are a thoroughly corrupt engineer, who has sold his
soul for cash.

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Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
zzbunker@netscape.net wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@yahoo.com> wrote
Han de Bruijn <Han.deBru...@DTO.TUDelft.NL> wrote
Jerry Kraus wrote

So, why aren't the best engineers interested in developing
unlimited, clean energy, and the power to exploit outer space
through controlled nuclear fusion? Is there something
seriously wrong with their heads? Or, are they exclusively
interested in making money, and know that controlled nuclear
fusion would be impossible to patent?

Controlled nuclear fusion may be possible only with mondial investment

Perhaps. Although I doubt it need be quite that expensive. I
think the ITER fusion project in France is an overblown
exercise in bureaucratic job creation. I do think it will
require some government involvement, though. Too expensive and
dangerous for the backyard inventors. Not enough of a gaurantee
of a financial return for the big companies, because the work
could be easily modified and copied, once completed. And
without outside pressure, the University scientists simply do
nothing whatsoever.

Odd about fusion with that last.

At great length, too.

Kicked you out did they ?

Spot on in fact.

It's a highly politicized environment, Rod.

No news to me boy.

Independance is not tolerated.

Plenty manage to remain independant.

YOU got kicked out.

Which is why they never get anything done.

Odd about Rutherford, Fleming, HIV/AIDS, fusion, DNA, etc etc etc.

But the Rutherfordians didn't know that photons work much better
when they're not an hypothesis, pumps work much better when they're
digital, that laser-guided lasers accelerate electrons much faster
than accelerators do, and that prisms scatter light better when
they'e artifical, rather than when they're diamonds. And that
magnets have 4 poles when they're not orbiting trees.

Irrelevant to his pathetically bitter and twisted mindless ravings about university scientists.

I never ranted about University Scientists,